As much as photography and video have gained in reputation in the world of fine art, they have also been democratised. Thanks to smart phones, 1.2 trillion photos were taken in 2017 alone.

Image-making is also something often scrutinised. It can reinforce strict and unrealistic standards of beauty or, collectively, define a narrow demographic of who and what gets to be represented.

As ever, though, a new generation of photographers and videographers are challenging the rules and helping to redefine a mainstream aesthetic. Our guests today, Ronan McKenzie and Esrael Alem, are two such artists.

Photograph by Ronan McKenzie