Museums serve a lot of purposes – as places of learning, preservers of important artefacts and even as public spaces for people to relax and spend time.

But, how we think about the role of the museum does change, sometimes prompted by politics, other times by technology, and others because of changing tastes in architecture.

In this episode, we meet Alan Maskin, a principal and owner of Seattle-based architecture practice Olson Kundig, and Dr Philippa Simpson, Director of Design, Estate and Future Plan of the V&A. They are involved in reshaping museums for the future – and in particular, two museums for children, one here in London and the other in Berlin.