Does the world need another chair? It’s a question often asked in the design world, mostly by industry journalists who have a hard time getting excited about countless new four-legged additions to furniture showrooms from Milan to Mexico City.

What is far more intriguing are the experiments in how we make, not necessarily what we make. From explorations of new materials, to developing circular economics, companies small and large are investing in finding new ways to create.

Our guests today: Jane Withers, a design consultant, curator, and writer, who is also behind the Brompton Design District, and Brent Dzekciorius, whose company DZEK creates original architectural materials and products in collaboration with designers. You'll have seen the terrazzo he did with Max Lamb – big beautiful specks of copper, blue and green on white.