Alex de Rijke is one of the founders of London architecture practice dRMM. They're currently up for the prestigious RIBA Stirling prize for their work on the new Hastings Pier. The winner will be announced in just a few days on Oct 31. In the meantime, Alex and Lee Mallett, urbanist and director of Urbik, joined us in The Pod. They discuss Hastings Pier and ask why it can be so difficult difficult to compel people to let you build anything interesting.

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